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	<title>Comments on: Who are the lumpen­proletariat?</title>
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	<description>Lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living</description>
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		<title>By: shag</title>
		<link>http://blog.voyou.org/2007/11/05/who-are-the-lumpenproletariat/comment-page-1/#comment-17281</link>
		<dc:creator>shag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who was the woman who said something like, &quot;The only thing worse about being caught up in circuits of capitali is not being so caught up?&quot;

just as an aside: I first read the title of the post and thought it was &quot;Who ATE the lumpenproletariat&quot;

Joan Robinson was her name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was the woman who said something like, &#8220;The only thing worse about being caught up in circuits of capitali is not being so caught up?&#8221;</p>
<p>just as an aside: I first read the title of the post and thought it was &#8220;Who ATE the lumpenproletariat&#8221;</p>
<p>Joan Robinson was her name.</p>
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		<title>By: steff</title>
		<link>http://blog.voyou.org/2007/11/05/who-are-the-lumpenproletariat/comment-page-1/#comment-15688</link>
		<dc:creator>steff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And who are the &lt;i&gt;lumpenintelligentsia&lt;/i&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who are the <i>lumpenintelligentsia</i>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://blog.voyou.org/2007/11/05/who-are-the-lumpenproletariat/comment-page-1/#comment-15553</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aren&#039;t they spivs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aren&#8217;t they spivs?</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://blog.voyou.org/2007/11/05/who-are-the-lumpenproletariat/comment-page-1/#comment-14888</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geo and Abbie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geo and Abbie.</p>
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		<title>By: voyou</title>
		<link>http://blog.voyou.org/2007/11/05/who-are-the-lumpenproletariat/comment-page-1/#comment-13025</link>
		<dc:creator>voyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m generally suspicious of claims that slumdwellers are part of the lumpenproletariat - once upon a time, people recently arrived in cities from the countryside might have been &quot;thrown off by the lowest layers of old society,&quot; not yet integrated into capitalism, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s true any longer. The informal sector seems like an integral part of the capitalist system.

However, the idea of people denied a class consciousness by certainly particular techniques of government does seem like a really interesting way of defining the lumpenproletariat, potentially much more politically useful than traditional left definitions. I haven&#039;t read the Davis book, but I probably should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally suspicious of claims that slumdwellers are part of the lumpenproletariat &#8211; once upon a time, people recently arrived in cities from the countryside might have been &#8220;thrown off by the lowest layers of old society,&#8221; not yet integrated into capitalism, but I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s true any longer. The informal sector seems like an integral part of the capitalist system.</p>
<p>However, the idea of people denied a class consciousness by certainly particular techniques of government does seem like a really interesting way of defining the lumpenproletariat, potentially much more politically useful than traditional left definitions. I haven&#8217;t read the Davis book, but I probably should.</p>
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		<title>By: Naadir Jeewa</title>
		<link>http://blog.voyou.org/2007/11/05/who-are-the-lumpenproletariat/comment-page-1/#comment-12954</link>
		<dc:creator>Naadir Jeewa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Davis suggests that the slum dwellers across the planet represent exactly the &quot;lumpenproletariat,&quot; denied a class consciousness through their exploitation and the bureaucratisation of neoliberal doctrine and NGOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Davis suggests that the slum dwellers across the planet represent exactly the &#8220;lumpenproletariat,&#8221; denied a class consciousness through their exploitation and the bureaucratisation of neoliberal doctrine and NGOs.</p>
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